Discussion:
Gnostic Christianity. Is it alive or dead?
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Justafoolagain
2018-11-24 18:59:08 UTC
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Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?

As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we are the same type of Gnostic Christian.

Regards
DL
einsiedlerkrebs
2018-11-25 03:24:34 UTC
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Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we are the same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I'm a gnostic omnist, and you can call yourself only gnostic if you know
(experienced) that god exists. Believing in god is not enough, everybody
can do that!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
Justafoolagain
2018-11-25 17:23:10 UTC
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Greetings.

I too am an esoteric ecumenist but would not say that I respect all religions so I do not think I can be an monist.

Can you respect demiurges and why would you respect Yahweh who shows himself to be quite a vile God?

What is the name of your God?

You seem to believe in the supernatural which I do not see as a Gnostic Christian trait and thus wonder which religion pushed you into Gnostic thinking, which is usually critical realistic thinking.

Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we are the same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I'm a gnostic omnist, and you can call yourself only gnostic if you know
(experienced) that god exists. Believing in god is not enough, everybody
can do that!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
einsiedlerkrebs
2018-11-26 00:09:01 UTC
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Post by Justafoolagain
Greetings.
I too am an esoteric ecumenist but would not say that I respect all religions so I do not think I can be an monist.
Me thinks that all religions have at least (one ore more) some kind of
truths in them, bc they are all inspired by the almighty. The people
have some kind of intuition for truths, and therefore the religions came
to prosper, but the almighty, like creating different religions for
different cultural contexts, since they are different but selfreflecting
out of an holographic multiverse principle and god creating us in its
own image and like the hindus say god is everything and wants to maybe
experience everything and reincarnates into different aspects of itself
(different races, beings like plants and animals).
Post by Justafoolagain
Can you respect demiurges and why would you respect Yahweh who shows himself to be quite a vile God?
I can even respect deamons since god created everything and in my vision
of god i know that he put his light into everyone/thing but is also the
darkness (Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”).
Post by Justafoolagain
What is the name of your God?
Actually, when i met god it didn't introduce itself wit a name
(sometimes me thinks it is the unnameable fathomless) but i call
him/her/it the love-light dear good god.
Post by Justafoolagain
You seem to believe in the supernatural which I do not see as a Gnostic Christian trait and thus wonder which religion pushed you into Gnostic thinking, which is usually critical realistic thinking.
It is always a definition of supernatural, though christianity knows of
that but you seem to see it as natural though i call Jesus walkin on the
water as supernatural.

And i told you before there's no gnostic thinking only gnostic being
(like experiencing god), bc the gnostic scriptures (nag hamadi library)
is bc of Jesus and his disciples having nde's or other divine
experiences/revelations (the supernatural)

It was no religion that pushed me into gnosticism but the hippiculture,
and no, god fer sure isn't realistic. If you would know the other side
or the tao, it can also be total irrational abstract crazy supernatural,
that is the holographic selfimageinig principle. But i take refuge in
the fact that god send us his masters and them being a signpost to
enlightenment/salvation/freedom/and finally eternal peace and healing.
Post by Justafoolagain
Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we are the same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I'm a gnostic omnist, and you can call yourself only gnostic if you know
(experienced) that god exists. Believing in god is not enough, everybody
can do that!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
einsiedlerkrebs
2018-11-26 00:26:15 UTC
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Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Greetings.
I too am an esoteric ecumenist but would not say that I respect all
religions so I do not think I can be an monist.
Me thinks that all religions have at least (one ore more) some kind of
truths in them, bc they are all inspired by the almighty. The people
have some kind of intuition for truths, and therefore the religions came
to prosper, but the almighty, like creating different religions for
different cultural contexts, since they are different but selfreflecting
out of an holographic multiverse principle and god creating us in its
own image and like the hindus say god is everything and wants to maybe
experience everything and reincarnates into different aspects of itself
(different races, beings like plants and animals).
Post by Justafoolagain
Can you respect demiurges and why would you respect Yahweh who shows
himself to be quite a vile God?
I can even respect deamons since god created everything and in my vision
of god i know that he put his light into everyone/thing but is also the
darkness (Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”).
Post by Justafoolagain
What is the name of your God?
Actually, when i met god it didn't introduce itself wit a name
(sometimes me thinks it is the unnameable fathomless) but i call
him/her/it the love-light dear good god.
Post by Justafoolagain
You seem to believe in the supernatural which I do not see as a
Gnostic Christian trait and thus wonder which religion pushed you into
Gnostic thinking, which is usually critical realistic thinking.
It is always a definition of supernatural, though christianity knows of
that but you seem to see it as natural though i call Jesus walkin on the
water as supernatural.
And i told you before there's no gnostic thinking only gnostic being
(like experiencing god), bc the gnostic scriptures (nag hamadi library)
is bc of Jesus and his disciples having nde's or other divine
experiences/revelations (the supernatural)
It was no religion that pushed me into gnosticism but the hippiculture,
and no, god fer sure isn't realistic. If you would know the other side
or the tao, it can also be total irrational abstract crazy supernatural,
that is the holographic selfimageinig principle.
God also reincarnating as crazy people and enlightened saints (jesus)
(tibetan buddhists say that the basis for enlightenment and madness is
the same and some sources depict prophets and saints as being totally
nuts), hindus say god is in an eternal dance wit itself to get
enlightened about itself but on the other hand don'T want to get
enlightened about itself (see Isaiha quote above (and i know bc of my
own experiences wit god)) so at least in this multiversial reality god
is actually the yin yang tao principle (darkness light etc) (see gnosis
the jelous creator god that was conceived out of light and darkness)
maybe it is even the ultimate reality, but who knows what the almighty
all-and-all principle has in store (like unfathomable other multiversial
realities we can't even imagine) (i dreamt of other realities/universes
so it is also possible that we actually know really tiny bit about the
all-and-all, like isaac newton said: what we know is just a drop of the
ocean that we don't know)

But i take refuge in
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
the fact that god send us his masters and them being a signpost to
enlightenment/salvation/freedom/and finally eternal peace and healing.
Post by Justafoolagain
Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we
are the same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I'm a gnostic omnist, and you can call yourself only gnostic if you know
(experienced) that god exists. Believing in god is not enough, everybody
can do that!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
Justafoolagain
2018-11-26 01:54:41 UTC
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I do not have much to say because as you might suspect, I do not believe in such things.

So let me change tack here and see if we at least see Gnostic Christianity's history in the same way.

Are you aware of who the Chrestians were and do you see them as related to Gnostic Christians?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rAt-PAkgqls

Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Greetings.
I too am an esoteric ecumenist but would not say that I respect all
religions so I do not think I can be an monist.
Me thinks that all religions have at least (one ore more) some kind of
truths in them, bc they are all inspired by the almighty. The people
have some kind of intuition for truths, and therefore the religions came
to prosper, but the almighty, like creating different religions for
different cultural contexts, since they are different but selfreflecting
out of an holographic multiverse principle and god creating us in its
own image and like the hindus say god is everything and wants to maybe
experience everything and reincarnates into different aspects of itself
(different races, beings like plants and animals).
Post by Justafoolagain
Can you respect demiurges and why would you respect Yahweh who shows
himself to be quite a vile God?
I can even respect deamons since god created everything and in my vision
of god i know that he put his light into everyone/thing but is also the
darkness (Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”).
Post by Justafoolagain
What is the name of your God?
Actually, when i met god it didn't introduce itself wit a name
(sometimes me thinks it is the unnameable fathomless) but i call
him/her/it the love-light dear good god.
Post by Justafoolagain
You seem to believe in the supernatural which I do not see as a
Gnostic Christian trait and thus wonder which religion pushed you into
Gnostic thinking, which is usually critical realistic thinking.
It is always a definition of supernatural, though christianity knows of
that but you seem to see it as natural though i call Jesus walkin on the
water as supernatural.
And i told you before there's no gnostic thinking only gnostic being
(like experiencing god), bc the gnostic scriptures (nag hamadi library)
is bc of Jesus and his disciples having nde's or other divine
experiences/revelations (the supernatural)
It was no religion that pushed me into gnosticism but the hippiculture,
and no, god fer sure isn't realistic. If you would know the other side
or the tao, it can also be total irrational abstract crazy supernatural,
that is the holographic selfimageinig principle.
God also reincarnating as crazy people and enlightened saints (jesus)
(tibetan buddhists say that the basis for enlightenment and madness is
the same and some sources depict prophets and saints as being totally
nuts), hindus say god is in an eternal dance wit itself to get
enlightened about itself but on the other hand don'T want to get
enlightened about itself (see Isaiha quote above (and i know bc of my
own experiences wit god)) so at least in this multiversial reality god
is actually the yin yang tao principle (darkness light etc) (see gnosis
the jelous creator god that was conceived out of light and darkness)
maybe it is even the ultimate reality, but who knows what the almighty
all-and-all principle has in store (like unfathomable other multiversial
realities we can't even imagine) (i dreamt of other realities/universes
so it is also possible that we actually know really tiny bit about the
all-and-all, like isaac newton said: what we know is just a drop of the
ocean that we don't know)
But i take refuge in
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
the fact that god send us his masters and them being a signpost to
enlightenment/salvation/freedom/and finally eternal peace and healing.
Post by Justafoolagain
Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we
are the same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I'm a gnostic omnist, and you can call yourself only gnostic if you know
(experienced) that god exists. Believing in god is not enough, everybody
can do that!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
einsiedlerkrebs
2018-11-26 06:38:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Justafoolagain
I do not have much to say because as you might suspect, I do not believe in such things.
So let me change tack here and see if we at least see Gnostic Christianity's history in the same way.
Are you aware of who the Chrestians were and do you see them as related to Gnostic Christians?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rAt-PAkgqls
Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Greetings.
I too am an esoteric ecumenist but would not say that I respect all
religions so I do not think I can be an monist.
Me thinks that all religions have at least (one ore more) some kind of
truths in them, bc they are all inspired by the almighty. The people
have some kind of intuition for truths, and therefore the religions came
to prosper, but the almighty, like creating different religions for
different cultural contexts, since they are different but selfreflecting
out of an holographic multiverse principle and god creating us in its
own image and like the hindus say god is everything and wants to maybe
experience everything and reincarnates into different aspects of itself
(different races, beings like plants and animals).
Post by Justafoolagain
Can you respect demiurges and why would you respect Yahweh who shows
himself to be quite a vile God?
I can even respect deamons since god created everything and in my vision
of god i know that he put his light into everyone/thing but is also the
darkness (Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”).
Post by Justafoolagain
What is the name of your God?
Actually, when i met god it didn't introduce itself wit a name
(sometimes me thinks it is the unnameable fathomless) but i call
him/her/it the love-light dear good god.
Post by Justafoolagain
You seem to believe in the supernatural which I do not see as a
Gnostic Christian trait and thus wonder which religion pushed you into
Gnostic thinking, which is usually critical realistic thinking.
It is always a definition of supernatural, though christianity knows of
that but you seem to see it as natural though i call Jesus walkin on the
water as supernatural.
And i told you before there's no gnostic thinking only gnostic being
(like experiencing god), bc the gnostic scriptures (nag hamadi library)
is bc of Jesus and his disciples having nde's or other divine
experiences/revelations (the supernatural)
It was no religion that pushed me into gnosticism but the hippiculture,
and no, god fer sure isn't realistic. If you would know the other side
or the tao, it can also be total irrational abstract crazy supernatural,
that is the holographic selfimageinig principle.
God also reincarnating as crazy people and enlightened saints (jesus)
(tibetan buddhists say that the basis for enlightenment and madness is
the same and some sources depict prophets and saints as being totally
nuts), hindus say god is in an eternal dance wit itself to get
enlightened about itself but on the other hand don'T want to get
enlightened about itself (see Isaiha quote above (and i know bc of my
own experiences wit god)) so at least in this multiversial reality god
is actually the yin yang tao principle (darkness light etc) (see gnosis
the jelous creator god that was conceived out of light and darkness)
maybe it is even the ultimate reality, but who knows what the almighty
all-and-all principle has in store (like unfathomable other multiversial
realities we can't even imagine) (i dreamt of other realities/universes
so it is also possible that we actually know really tiny bit about the
all-and-all, like isaac newton said: what we know is just a drop of the
ocean that we don't know)
But i take refuge in
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
the fact that god send us his masters and them being a signpost to
enlightenment/salvation/freedom/and finally eternal peace and healing.
Post by Justafoolagain
Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we
are the same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I'm a gnostic omnist, and you can call yourself only gnostic if you know
(experienced) that god exists. Believing in god is not enough, everybody
can do that!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
Go away Fool!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
einsiedlerkrebs
2018-11-26 06:42:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
I do not have much to say because as you might suspect, I do not believe in such things.
So let me change tack here and see if we at least see Gnostic
Christianity's  history in the same way.
Are you aware of who the Chrestians were and do you see them as
related to Gnostic Christians?
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rAt-PAkgqls
Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Greetings.
I too am an esoteric ecumenist but would not say that I respect all
religions so I do not think I can be an monist.
Me thinks that all religions have at least (one ore more) some kind of
truths in them, bc they are all inspired by the almighty. The people
have some kind of intuition for truths, and therefore the religions came
to prosper, but the almighty, like creating different religions for
different cultural contexts, since they are different but
selfreflecting
out of an holographic multiverse principle and god creating us in its
own image and like the hindus say god is everything and wants to maybe
experience everything and reincarnates into different aspects of itself
(different races, beings like plants and animals).
Post by Justafoolagain
Can you respect demiurges and why would you respect Yahweh who shows
himself to be quite a vile God?
I can even respect deamons since god created everything and in my vision
of god i know that he put his light into everyone/thing but is also the
darkness (Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”).
Post by Justafoolagain
What is the name of your God?
Actually, when i met god it didn't introduce itself wit a name
(sometimes me thinks it is the unnameable fathomless) but i call
him/her/it the love-light dear good god.
Post by Justafoolagain
You seem to believe in the supernatural which I do not see as a
Gnostic Christian trait and thus wonder which religion pushed you into
Gnostic thinking, which is usually critical realistic thinking.
It is always a definition of supernatural, though christianity knows of
that but you seem to see it as natural though i call Jesus walkin on the
water as supernatural.
And i told you before there's no gnostic thinking only gnostic being
(like experiencing god), bc the gnostic scriptures (nag hamadi library)
is bc of Jesus and his disciples having nde's or other divine
experiences/revelations (the supernatural)
It was no religion that pushed me into gnosticism but the hippiculture,
and no, god fer sure isn't realistic. If you would know the other side
or the tao, it can also be total irrational abstract crazy
supernatural,
that is the holographic selfimageinig principle.
God also reincarnating as crazy people and enlightened saints (jesus)
(tibetan buddhists say that the basis for enlightenment and madness is
the same and some sources depict prophets and saints as being totally
nuts), hindus say god is in an eternal dance wit itself to get
enlightened about itself but on the other hand don'T want to get
enlightened about itself (see Isaiha quote above (and i know bc of my
own experiences wit god)) so at least in this multiversial reality god
is actually the yin yang tao principle (darkness light etc) (see gnosis
the jelous creator god that was conceived out of light and darkness)
maybe it is even the ultimate reality, but who knows what the almighty
all-and-all principle has in store (like unfathomable other multiversial
realities we can't even imagine) (i dreamt of other realities/universes
so it is also possible that we actually know really tiny bit about the
all-and-all, like isaac newton said: what we know is just a drop of the
ocean that we don't know)
   But i take refuge in
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
the fact that god send us his masters and them being a signpost to
enlightenment/salvation/freedom/and finally eternal peace and healing.
Post by Justafoolagain
Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we
are the same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I'm a gnostic omnist, and you can call yourself only gnostic if you know
(experienced) that god exists. Believing in god is not enough, everybody
can do that!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
Go away Fool!
You know that little from me, that i told, but you surmisde and say that
i'm this or that though you know that little! So go away fool! Or better
now i test you ! Did you ever encounter god or still do that you can
claim to be gnostic or talk such about other people like you do wit me?

There'S the sin of pride and disdainfulness, since you only think(!)
about god and have no actual direct contact with the higher power!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
einsiedlerkrebs
2018-11-26 06:46:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
I do not have much to say because as you might suspect, I do not
believe in such things.
So let me change tack here and see if we at least see Gnostic
Christianity's  history in the same way.
Are you aware of who the Chrestians were and do you see them as
related to Gnostic Christians?
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rAt-PAkgqls
Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Greetings.
I too am an esoteric ecumenist but would not say that I respect all
religions so I do not think I can be an monist.
Me thinks that all religions have at least (one ore more) some kind of
truths in them, bc they are all inspired by the almighty. The people
have some kind of intuition for truths, and therefore the religions came
to prosper, but the almighty, like creating different religions for
different cultural contexts, since they are different but
selfreflecting
out of an holographic multiverse principle and god creating us in its
own image and like the hindus say god is everything and wants to maybe
experience everything and reincarnates into different aspects of itself
(different races, beings like plants and animals).
Post by Justafoolagain
Can you respect demiurges and why would you respect Yahweh who shows
himself to be quite a vile God?
I can even respect deamons since god created everything and in my vision
of god i know that he put his light into everyone/thing but is also the
darkness (Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”).
Post by Justafoolagain
What is the name of your God?
Actually, when i met god it didn't introduce itself wit a name
(sometimes me thinks it is the unnameable fathomless) but i call
him/her/it the love-light dear good god.
Post by Justafoolagain
You seem to believe in the supernatural which I do not see as a
Gnostic Christian trait and thus wonder which religion pushed you into
Gnostic thinking, which is usually critical realistic thinking.
It is always a definition of supernatural, though christianity knows of
that but you seem to see it as natural though i call Jesus walkin on the
water as supernatural.
And i told you before there's no gnostic thinking only gnostic being
(like experiencing god), bc the gnostic scriptures (nag hamadi library)
is bc of Jesus and his disciples having nde's or other divine
experiences/revelations (the supernatural)
It was no religion that pushed me into gnosticism but the
hippiculture,
and no, god fer sure isn't realistic. If you would know the other side
or the tao, it can also be total irrational abstract crazy
supernatural,
that is the holographic selfimageinig principle.
God also reincarnating as crazy people and enlightened saints (jesus)
(tibetan buddhists say that the basis for enlightenment and madness is
the same and some sources depict prophets and saints as being totally
nuts), hindus say god is in an eternal dance wit itself to get
enlightened about itself but on the other hand don'T want to get
enlightened about itself (see Isaiha quote above (and i know bc of my
own experiences wit god)) so at least in this multiversial reality god
is actually the yin yang tao principle (darkness light etc) (see gnosis
the jelous creator god that was conceived out of light and darkness)
maybe it is even the ultimate reality, but who knows what the almighty
all-and-all principle has in store (like unfathomable other
multiversial
realities we can't even imagine) (i dreamt of other realities/universes
so it is also possible that we actually know really tiny bit about the
all-and-all, like isaac newton said: what we know is just a drop of the
ocean that we don't know)
   But i take refuge in
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
the fact that god send us his masters and them being a signpost to
enlightenment/salvation/freedom/and finally eternal peace and healing.
Post by Justafoolagain
Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we
are the same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I'm a gnostic omnist, and you can call yourself only gnostic if you know
(experienced) that god exists. Believing in god is not enough, everybody
can do that!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
Go away Fool!
You know that little from me, that i told, but you surmisde and say that
i'm this or that though you know that little! So go away fool! Or better
now i test you ! Did you ever encounter god or still do that you can
claim to be gnostic or talk such about other people like you do wit me?
There'S the sin of pride and disdainfulness, since you only think(!)
about god and have no actual direct contact with the higher power!
The unknown told me that you might be subconsciously an gnosticism troll
and being now jelous of me want to hurt my insights and visions!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
einsiedlerkrebs
2018-11-26 08:39:09 UTC
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Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
I do not have much to say because as you might suspect, I do not
believe in such things.
So let me change tack here and see if we at least see Gnostic
Christianity's  history in the same way.
Are you aware of who the Chrestians were and do you see them as
related to Gnostic Christians?
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rAt-PAkgqls
Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Greetings.
I too am an esoteric ecumenist but would not say that I respect all
religions so I do not think I can be an monist.
Me thinks that all religions have at least (one ore more) some kind of
truths in them, bc they are all inspired by the almighty. The people
have some kind of intuition for truths, and therefore the
religions came
to prosper, but the almighty, like creating different religions for
different cultural contexts, since they are different but
selfreflecting
out of an holographic multiverse principle and god creating us in its
own image and like the hindus say god is everything and wants to maybe
experience everything and reincarnates into different aspects of itself
(different races, beings like plants and animals).
Post by Justafoolagain
Can you respect demiurges and why would you respect Yahweh who shows
himself to be quite a vile God?
I can even respect deamons since god created everything and in my vision
of god i know that he put his light into everyone/thing but is also the
darkness (Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”).
Post by Justafoolagain
What is the name of your God?
Actually, when i met god it didn't introduce itself wit a name
(sometimes me thinks it is the unnameable fathomless) but i call
him/her/it the love-light dear good god.
Post by Justafoolagain
You seem to believe in the supernatural which I do not see as a
Gnostic Christian trait and thus wonder which religion pushed you into
Gnostic thinking, which is usually critical realistic thinking.
It is always a definition of supernatural, though christianity knows of
that but you seem to see it as natural though i call Jesus walkin on the
water as supernatural.
And i told you before there's no gnostic thinking only gnostic being
(like experiencing god), bc the gnostic scriptures (nag hamadi library)
is bc of Jesus and his disciples having nde's or other divine
experiences/revelations (the supernatural)
It was no religion that pushed me into gnosticism but the
hippiculture,
and no, god fer sure isn't realistic. If you would know the other side
or the tao, it can also be total irrational abstract crazy supernatural,
that is the holographic selfimageinig principle.
God also reincarnating as crazy people and enlightened saints (jesus)
(tibetan buddhists say that the basis for enlightenment and madness is
the same and some sources depict prophets and saints as being totally
nuts), hindus say god is in an eternal dance wit itself to get
enlightened about itself but on the other hand don'T want to get
enlightened about itself (see Isaiha quote above (and i know bc of my
own experiences wit god)) so at least in this multiversial reality god
is actually the yin yang tao principle (darkness light etc) (see gnosis
the jelous creator god that was conceived out of light and darkness)
maybe it is even the ultimate reality, but who knows what the almighty
all-and-all principle has in store (like unfathomable other multiversial
realities we can't even imagine) (i dreamt of other
realities/universes
so it is also possible that we actually know really tiny bit about the
all-and-all, like isaac newton said: what we know is just a drop of the
ocean that we don't know)
   But i take refuge in
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
the fact that god send us his masters and them being a signpost to
enlightenment/salvation/freedom/and finally eternal peace and healing.
Post by Justafoolagain
Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we
are the same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I'm a gnostic omnist, and you can call yourself only gnostic if you know
(experienced) that god exists. Believing in god is not enough, everybody
can do that!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
Go away Fool!
You know that little from me, that i told, but you surmisde and say
that i'm this or that though you know that little! So go away fool! Or
better now i test you ! Did you ever encounter god or still do that
you can claim to be gnostic or talk such about other people like you
do wit me?
There'S the sin of pride and disdainfulness, since you only think(!)
about god and have no actual direct contact with the higher power!
The unknown told me that you might be subconsciously an gnosticism troll
and being now jelous of me want to hurt my insights and visions!
I surely have nothing to proove to you, about me and my experiences with
god, you tryin to test me, since we don't know each other at all.

So jalla jalla!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
einsiedlerkrebs
2018-11-26 11:07:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
I do not have much to say because as you might suspect, I do not
believe in such things.
So let me change tack here and see if we at least see Gnostic
Christianity's  history in the same way.
Are you aware of who the Chrestians were and do you see them as
related to Gnostic Christians?
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rAt-PAkgqls
Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Greetings.
I too am an esoteric ecumenist but would not say that I respect all
religions so I do not think I can be an monist.
Me thinks that all religions have at least (one ore more) some kind of
truths in them, bc they are all inspired by the almighty. The people
have some kind of intuition for truths, and therefore the religions came
to prosper, but the almighty, like creating different religions for
different cultural contexts, since they are different but selfreflecting
out of an holographic multiverse principle and god creating us in its
own image and like the hindus say god is everything and wants to maybe
experience everything and reincarnates into different aspects of itself
(different races, beings like plants and animals).
Post by Justafoolagain
Can you respect demiurges and why would you respect Yahweh who shows
himself to be quite a vile God?
I can even respect deamons since god created everything and in my vision
of god i know that he put his light into everyone/thing but is also the
darkness (Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”).
Post by Justafoolagain
What is the name of your God?
Actually, when i met god it didn't introduce itself wit a name
(sometimes me thinks it is the unnameable fathomless) but i call
him/her/it the love-light dear good god.
Post by Justafoolagain
You seem to believe in the supernatural which I do not see as a
Gnostic Christian trait and thus wonder which religion pushed you into
Gnostic thinking, which is usually critical realistic thinking.
It is always a definition of supernatural, though christianity knows of
that but you seem to see it as natural though i call Jesus walkin on the
water as supernatural.
And i told you before there's no gnostic thinking only gnostic being
(like experiencing god), bc the gnostic scriptures (nag hamadi library)
is bc of Jesus and his disciples having nde's or other divine
experiences/revelations (the supernatural)
It was no religion that pushed me into gnosticism but the hippiculture,
and no, god fer sure isn't realistic. If you would know the other side
or the tao, it can also be total irrational abstract crazy supernatural,
that is the holographic selfimageinig principle.
God also reincarnating as crazy people and enlightened saints (jesus)
(tibetan buddhists say that the basis for enlightenment and madness is
the same and some sources depict prophets and saints as being totally
nuts), hindus say god is in an eternal dance wit itself to get
enlightened about itself but on the other hand don'T want to get
enlightened about itself (see Isaiha quote above (and i know bc of my
own experiences wit god)) so at least in this multiversial reality god
is actually the yin yang tao principle (darkness light etc) (see gnosis
the jelous creator god that was conceived out of light and darkness)
maybe it is even the ultimate reality, but who knows what the almighty
all-and-all principle has in store (like unfathomable other multiversial
realities we can't even imagine) (i dreamt of other
realities/universes
so it is also possible that we actually know really tiny bit about the
all-and-all, like isaac newton said: what we know is just a drop of the
ocean that we don't know)
   But i take refuge in
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
the fact that god send us his masters and them being a signpost to
enlightenment/salvation/freedom/and finally eternal peace and healing.
Post by Justafoolagain
Regards
DL
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 10:24:35 PM UTC-5,
einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we
are the same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I'm a gnostic omnist, and you can call yourself only gnostic if you know
(experienced) that god exists. Believing in god is not enough, everybody
can do that!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
Go away Fool!
You know that little from me, that i told, but you surmisde and say
that i'm this or that though you know that little! So go away fool!
Or better now i test you ! Did you ever encounter god or still do
that you can claim to be gnostic or talk such about other people like
you do wit me?
There'S the sin of pride and disdainfulness, since you only think(!)
about god and have no actual direct contact with the higher power!
The unknown told me that you might be subconsciously an gnosticism
troll and being now jelous of me want to hurt my insights and visions!
I surely have nothing to proove to you, about me and my experiences with
god, you tryin to test me, since we don't know each other at all.
So jalla jalla!
Also gnostic meaning "Konwing" of god and not thinking about or
believeing, and seeing god revealing itself in all religions bc of
prophets or whatever having transcendent/gnostic
revelations/experiences, leaves you only the possibility to be an
universalist omnist see also www.near-death.com .

so jalla jalla.
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
Justafoolagain
2018-11-26 14:44:33 UTC
Permalink
You define Gnosis wrong.



You also ignore what Gnostic Christian authors say.

http://youtu.be/oR02ciandvg

Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
I do not have much to say because as you might suspect, I do not
believe in such things.
So let me change tack here and see if we at least see Gnostic
Christianity's  history in the same way.
Are you aware of who the Chrestians were and do you see them as
related to Gnostic Christians?
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rAt-PAkgqls
Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Greetings.
I too am an esoteric ecumenist but would not say that I respect all
religions so I do not think I can be an monist.
Me thinks that all religions have at least (one ore more) some kind of
truths in them, bc they are all inspired by the almighty. The people
have some kind of intuition for truths, and therefore the religions came
to prosper, but the almighty, like creating different religions for
different cultural contexts, since they are different but selfreflecting
out of an holographic multiverse principle and god creating us in its
own image and like the hindus say god is everything and wants to maybe
experience everything and reincarnates into different aspects of itself
(different races, beings like plants and animals).
Post by Justafoolagain
Can you respect demiurges and why would you respect Yahweh who shows
himself to be quite a vile God?
I can even respect deamons since god created everything and in my vision
of god i know that he put his light into everyone/thing but is also the
darkness (Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”).
Post by Justafoolagain
What is the name of your God?
Actually, when i met god it didn't introduce itself wit a name
(sometimes me thinks it is the unnameable fathomless) but i call
him/her/it the love-light dear good god.
Post by Justafoolagain
You seem to believe in the supernatural which I do not see as a
Gnostic Christian trait and thus wonder which religion pushed you into
Gnostic thinking, which is usually critical realistic thinking.
It is always a definition of supernatural, though christianity knows of
that but you seem to see it as natural though i call Jesus walkin on the
water as supernatural.
And i told you before there's no gnostic thinking only gnostic being
(like experiencing god), bc the gnostic scriptures (nag hamadi library)
is bc of Jesus and his disciples having nde's or other divine
experiences/revelations (the supernatural)
It was no religion that pushed me into gnosticism but the hippiculture,
and no, god fer sure isn't realistic. If you would know the other side
or the tao, it can also be total irrational abstract crazy supernatural,
that is the holographic selfimageinig principle.
God also reincarnating as crazy people and enlightened saints (jesus)
(tibetan buddhists say that the basis for enlightenment and madness is
the same and some sources depict prophets and saints as being totally
nuts), hindus say god is in an eternal dance wit itself to get
enlightened about itself but on the other hand don'T want to get
enlightened about itself (see Isaiha quote above (and i know bc of my
own experiences wit god)) so at least in this multiversial reality god
is actually the yin yang tao principle (darkness light etc) (see gnosis
the jelous creator god that was conceived out of light and darkness)
maybe it is even the ultimate reality, but who knows what the almighty
all-and-all principle has in store (like unfathomable other multiversial
realities we can't even imagine) (i dreamt of other
realities/universes
so it is also possible that we actually know really tiny bit about the
all-and-all, like isaac newton said: what we know is just a drop of the
ocean that we don't know)
   But i take refuge in
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
the fact that god send us his masters and them being a signpost to
enlightenment/salvation/freedom/and finally eternal peace and healing.
Post by Justafoolagain
Regards
DL
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 10:24:35 PM UTC-5,
einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the
way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we
are the same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I'm a gnostic omnist, and you can call yourself only gnostic if
you know
(experienced) that god exists. Believing in god is not enough,
everybody
can do that!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
Go away Fool!
You know that little from me, that i told, but you surmisde and say
that i'm this or that though you know that little! So go away fool!
Or better now i test you ! Did you ever encounter god or still do
that you can claim to be gnostic or talk such about other people like
you do wit me?
There'S the sin of pride and disdainfulness, since you only think(!)
about god and have no actual direct contact with the higher power!
The unknown told me that you might be subconsciously an gnosticism
troll and being now jelous of me want to hurt my insights and visions!
I surely have nothing to proove to you, about me and my experiences with
god, you tryin to test me, since we don't know each other at all.
So jalla jalla!
Also gnostic meaning "Konwing" of god and not thinking about or
believeing, and seeing god revealing itself in all religions bc of
prophets or whatever having transcendent/gnostic
revelations/experiences, leaves you only the possibility to be an
universalist omnist see also www.near-death.com .
so jalla jalla.
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
Justafoolagain
2018-11-26 14:40:45 UTC
Permalink
I have claimed apotheosis.

I see why your site is so quiet.

Try not to be such a prick.

Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
I do not have much to say because as you might suspect, I do not
believe in such things.
So let me change tack here and see if we at least see Gnostic
Christianity's  history in the same way.
Are you aware of who the Chrestians were and do you see them as
related to Gnostic Christians?
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rAt-PAkgqls
Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Greetings.
I too am an esoteric ecumenist but would not say that I respect all
religions so I do not think I can be an monist.
Me thinks that all religions have at least (one ore more) some kind of
truths in them, bc they are all inspired by the almighty. The people
have some kind of intuition for truths, and therefore the religions came
to prosper, but the almighty, like creating different religions for
different cultural contexts, since they are different but
selfreflecting
out of an holographic multiverse principle and god creating us in its
own image and like the hindus say god is everything and wants to maybe
experience everything and reincarnates into different aspects of itself
(different races, beings like plants and animals).
Post by Justafoolagain
Can you respect demiurges and why would you respect Yahweh who shows
himself to be quite a vile God?
I can even respect deamons since god created everything and in my vision
of god i know that he put his light into everyone/thing but is also the
darkness (Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”).
Post by Justafoolagain
What is the name of your God?
Actually, when i met god it didn't introduce itself wit a name
(sometimes me thinks it is the unnameable fathomless) but i call
him/her/it the love-light dear good god.
Post by Justafoolagain
You seem to believe in the supernatural which I do not see as a
Gnostic Christian trait and thus wonder which religion pushed you into
Gnostic thinking, which is usually critical realistic thinking.
It is always a definition of supernatural, though christianity knows of
that but you seem to see it as natural though i call Jesus walkin on the
water as supernatural.
And i told you before there's no gnostic thinking only gnostic being
(like experiencing god), bc the gnostic scriptures (nag hamadi library)
is bc of Jesus and his disciples having nde's or other divine
experiences/revelations (the supernatural)
It was no religion that pushed me into gnosticism but the hippiculture,
and no, god fer sure isn't realistic. If you would know the other side
or the tao, it can also be total irrational abstract crazy supernatural,
that is the holographic selfimageinig principle.
God also reincarnating as crazy people and enlightened saints (jesus)
(tibetan buddhists say that the basis for enlightenment and madness is
the same and some sources depict prophets and saints as being totally
nuts), hindus say god is in an eternal dance wit itself to get
enlightened about itself but on the other hand don'T want to get
enlightened about itself (see Isaiha quote above (and i know bc of my
own experiences wit god)) so at least in this multiversial reality god
is actually the yin yang tao principle (darkness light etc) (see gnosis
the jelous creator god that was conceived out of light and darkness)
maybe it is even the ultimate reality, but who knows what the almighty
all-and-all principle has in store (like unfathomable other multiversial
realities we can't even imagine) (i dreamt of other realities/universes
so it is also possible that we actually know really tiny bit about the
all-and-all, like isaac newton said: what we know is just a drop of the
ocean that we don't know)
   But i take refuge in
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
the fact that god send us his masters and them being a signpost to
enlightenment/salvation/freedom/and finally eternal peace and healing.
Post by Justafoolagain
Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we
are the same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I'm a gnostic omnist, and you can call yourself only gnostic if you know
(experienced) that god exists. Believing in god is not enough, everybody
can do that!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
Go away Fool!
You know that little from me, that i told, but you surmisde and say that
i'm this or that though you know that little! So go away fool! Or better
now i test you ! Did you ever encounter god or still do that you can
claim to be gnostic or talk such about other people like you do wit me?
There'S the sin of pride and disdainfulness, since you only think(!)
about god and have no actual direct contact with the higher power!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
Justafoolagain
2018-11-26 01:49:49 UTC
Permalink
Hi einsiedlerkrebs

Darn it. I was hoping to find what I call a modern Gnostic. Oh well.

I think Gnostic Christians will think more the way this scholar says most intelligent seekers once did.

http://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2

Gnostic Christians are supposed to be perpetual seekers but you seem more like a regular Christian idol worshiper of what you think you found during you apotheosis.

http://www.gnosticschristians.com/summary.html

"Actually, when i met god it didn't introduce itself wit a name"

Exactly. So that you would not become the idol worshiper you seem to be.

I am not sure where we can go from here. not want to treat you as I do Christians whom I disrespect for their always hiding behind their supernatural shields but here you are, a Gnostic Christian doing the same thing.

I have to wonder if that is why your site here is so quiet.

Do you believe at all the way this link says.



Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Greetings.
I too am an esoteric ecumenist but would not say that I respect all religions so I do not think I can be an monist.
Me thinks that all religions have at least (one ore more) some kind of
truths in them, bc they are all inspired by the almighty. The people
have some kind of intuition for truths, and therefore the religions came
to prosper, but the almighty, like creating different religions for
different cultural contexts, since they are different but selfreflecting
out of an holographic multiverse principle and god creating us in its
own image and like the hindus say god is everything and wants to maybe
experience everything and reincarnates into different aspects of itself
(different races, beings like plants and animals).
Post by Justafoolagain
Can you respect demiurges and why would you respect Yahweh who shows himself to be quite a vile God?
I can even respect deamons since god created everything and in my vision
of god i know that he put his light into everyone/thing but is also the
darkness (Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”).
Post by Justafoolagain
What is the name of your God?
Actually, when i met god it didn't introduce itself wit a name
(sometimes me thinks it is the unnameable fathomless) but i call
him/her/it the love-light dear good god.
Post by Justafoolagain
You seem to believe in the supernatural which I do not see as a Gnostic Christian trait and thus wonder which religion pushed you into Gnostic thinking, which is usually critical realistic thinking.
It is always a definition of supernatural, though christianity knows of
that but you seem to see it as natural though i call Jesus walkin on the
water as supernatural.
And i told you before there's no gnostic thinking only gnostic being
(like experiencing god), bc the gnostic scriptures (nag hamadi library)
is bc of Jesus and his disciples having nde's or other divine
experiences/revelations (the supernatural)
It was no religion that pushed me into gnosticism but the hippiculture,
and no, god fer sure isn't realistic. If you would know the other side
or the tao, it can also be total irrational abstract crazy supernatural,
that is the holographic selfimageinig principle. But i take refuge in
the fact that god send us his masters and them being a signpost to
enlightenment/salvation/freedom/and finally eternal peace and healing.
Post by Justafoolagain
Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we are the same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I'm a gnostic omnist, and you can call yourself only gnostic if you know
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
(experienced) that god exists. Believing in god is not enough, everybody
can do that!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
David Dalton
2018-11-26 02:17:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we are the
same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I don’t consider myself a gnostic or a Christian, but I define my
top deity or Deity ALL as the someone that is all/everything,
and I also call it God, but I usually use the name ALL to avoid
confusion with other definitions of God. Also my second
deity is LOVE2, defined as the someone that is highest in
goodness measure as defined by ALL. I believe that, based
on the way things are, that ALL is not LOVE2.

I sometimes post to this newsgroup to hopefully reach gnostics.

How do you define your God?
--
David Dalton ***@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“I'm sick of sitting 'round here trying to write this book
I need a love reaction/Come on now baby gimme just one look" (B.S.)
Justafoolagain
2018-11-26 14:38:09 UTC
Permalink
"How do you define your God?"

Somewhat like you do but I take it further and give the "all" a voice. Mine.

I name my God I am.

Here is a longer explanation and logic trail. It is designed for Christians but you will get it.


Modern Gnostic Christians name our god "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.

You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.

The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation.

In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that lazy Christians have forgotten that they are to do. That is, become brethren to Jesus.

That is why some say that the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.

Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.


Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.


The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural and literal reading of myths.

Regards
DL
Post by David Dalton
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we are the
same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I don’t consider myself a gnostic or a Christian, but I define my
top deity or Deity ALL as the someone that is all/everything,
and I also call it God, but I usually use the name ALL to avoid
confusion with other definitions of God. Also my second
deity is LOVE2, defined as the someone that is highest in
goodness measure as defined by ALL. I believe that, based
on the way things are, that ALL is not LOVE2.
I sometimes post to this newsgroup to hopefully reach gnostics.
How do you define your God?
--
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“I'm sick of sitting 'round here trying to write this book
I need a love reaction/Come on now baby gimme just one look" (B.S.)
einsiedlerkrebs
2018-11-26 17:03:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Justafoolagain
"How do you define your God?"
Somewhat like you do but I take it further and give the "all" a voice. Mine.
I name my God I am.
Yahweh, the "i am the i am" god is only a tiny little aspect of the
almighty (the all encompassing and fathomless all-and-all concept)
according to (Psalm 82)

"God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the
gods. How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the
wicked? Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and
needy. Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the
wicked. They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in
darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations."

and the gnostic scriptures (nag hamadi library) rerfering to jehova as
the jelous creator god (of this universe) conceived out of the light
goddess (sophia, also goddess of wisdom) and darkness!
Post by Justafoolagain
Here is a longer explanation and logic trail. It is designed for Christians but you will get it.
Modern Gnostic Christians name our god "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.
You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.
The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation.
In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that lazy Christians have forgotten that they are to do. That is, become brethren to Jesus.
That is why some say that the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.
Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.
Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.
http://youtu.be/alRNbesfXXw
Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.
http://youtu.be/aGx4IlppSgU
The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural and literal reading of myths.
Regards
DL
Post by David Dalton
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we are the
same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I don’t consider myself a gnostic or a Christian, but I define my
top deity or Deity ALL as the someone that is all/everything,
and I also call it God, but I usually use the name ALL to avoid
confusion with other definitions of God. Also my second
deity is LOVE2, defined as the someone that is highest in
goodness measure as defined by ALL. I believe that, based
on the way things are, that ALL is not LOVE2.
I sometimes post to this newsgroup to hopefully reach gnostics.
How do you define your God?
--
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“I'm sick of sitting 'round here trying to write this book
I need a love reaction/Come on now baby gimme just one look" (B.S.)
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
Justafoolagain
2018-11-26 17:58:02 UTC
Permalink
einsied

Can wisdom create a real supernatural God or just wise people who know what a God for humans would look like?

You do know that ancient Gnostic Christians were naturalists. Right?

They would thus have natural view of God. Right?

Why are you ignoring that link I gave showing how we have always thought of Jesus as a myth along with his God?

Do you not recognize what even the ancient Gnostic Christians did, that being that if there is a supernatural realm, then fractal math says that no God could know how many more were above him, hence our God above God views.

Reject your fantasy supernatural world. It is garbage and not what one can build a decent ideology on.



Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
"How do you define your God?"
Somewhat like you do but I take it further and give the "all" a voice. Mine.
I name my God I am.
Yahweh, the "i am the i am" god is only a tiny little aspect of the
almighty (the all encompassing and fathomless all-and-all concept)
according to (Psalm 82)
"God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the
gods. How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the
wicked? Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and
needy. Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the
wicked. They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in
darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations."
and the gnostic scriptures (nag hamadi library) rerfering to jehova as
the jelous creator god (of this universe) conceived out of the light
goddess (sophia, also goddess of wisdom) and darkness!
Post by Justafoolagain
Here is a longer explanation and logic trail. It is designed for Christians but you will get it.
Modern Gnostic Christians name our god "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.
You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.
The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation.
In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that lazy Christians have forgotten that they are to do. That is, become brethren to Jesus.
That is why some say that the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.
Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.
Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.
http://youtu.be/alRNbesfXXw
Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.
http://youtu.be/aGx4IlppSgU
The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural and literal reading of myths.
Regards
DL
Post by David Dalton
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we are the
same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I don’t consider myself a gnostic or a Christian, but I define my
top deity or Deity ALL as the someone that is all/everything,
and I also call it God, but I usually use the name ALL to avoid
confusion with other definitions of God. Also my second
deity is LOVE2, defined as the someone that is highest in
goodness measure as defined by ALL. I believe that, based
on the way things are, that ALL is not LOVE2.
I sometimes post to this newsgroup to hopefully reach gnostics.
How do you define your God?
--
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“I'm sick of sitting 'round here trying to write this book
I need a love reaction/Come on now baby gimme just one look" (B.S.)
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
einsiedlerkrebs
2018-11-27 01:07:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Justafoolagain
einsied
Can wisdom create a real supernatural God or just wise people who know what a God for humans would look like?
You do know that ancient Gnostic Christians were naturalists. Right?
They would thus have natural view of God. Right?
Why are you ignoring that link I gave showing how we have always thought of Jesus as a myth along with his God?
Do you not recognize what even the ancient Gnostic Christians did, that being that if there is a supernatural realm, then fractal math says that no God could know how many more were above him, hence our God above God views.
Reject your fantasy supernatural world. It is garbage and not what one can build a decent ideology on.
http://youtu.be/WvBxFXQy7-M
Regards
DL
Like i said, everything is a thing of definition, if you call walking on
water as part of natural bc everyone could do it and it being a
possibility of human existance or you call god as supernatural bc it
being a part of another reality is up to you but to "normal" people and
their "normal" everyday world god IS smthg supernatural, is up to you
and your personal def of supernatural.
So what you wank on is a tiny bit of your philosophy, maybe bc your god
is not the most high and you being in a snit!
Post by Justafoolagain
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
"How do you define your God?"
Somewhat like you do but I take it further and give the "all" a voice. Mine.
I name my God I am.
Yahweh, the "i am the i am" god is only a tiny little aspect of the
almighty (the all encompassing and fathomless all-and-all concept)
according to (Psalm 82)
"God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the
gods. How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the
wicked? Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and
needy. Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the
wicked. They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in
darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations."
and the gnostic scriptures (nag hamadi library) rerfering to jehova as
the jelous creator god (of this universe) conceived out of the light
goddess (sophia, also goddess of wisdom) and darkness!
Post by Justafoolagain
Here is a longer explanation and logic trail. It is designed for Christians but you will get it.
Modern Gnostic Christians name our god "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.
You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.
The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation.
In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that lazy Christians have forgotten that they are to do. That is, become brethren to Jesus.
That is why some say that the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.
Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.
Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.
http://youtu.be/alRNbesfXXw
Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.
http://youtu.be/aGx4IlppSgU
The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural and literal reading of myths.
Regards
DL
Post by David Dalton
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we are the
same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I don’t consider myself a gnostic or a Christian, but I define my
top deity or Deity ALL as the someone that is all/everything,
and I also call it God, but I usually use the name ALL to avoid
confusion with other definitions of God. Also my second
deity is LOVE2, defined as the someone that is highest in
goodness measure as defined by ALL. I believe that, based
on the way things are, that ALL is not LOVE2.
I sometimes post to this newsgroup to hopefully reach gnostics.
How do you define your God?
--
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“I'm sick of sitting 'round here trying to write this book
I need a love reaction/Come on now baby gimme just one look" (B.S.)
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
Justafoolagain
2018-11-27 14:51:09 UTC
Permalink
Water, in the esoteric sense is people.

Keep your childish supernatural belief. Intelligent people will deal with facts and not fantasy.

Thanks for the chat.

Given that things are really quiet here, and now I see why, I will move along.

Regards
DL
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
einsied
Can wisdom create a real supernatural God or just wise people who know what a God for humans would look like?
You do know that ancient Gnostic Christians were naturalists. Right?
They would thus have natural view of God. Right?
Why are you ignoring that link I gave showing how we have always thought of Jesus as a myth along with his God?
Do you not recognize what even the ancient Gnostic Christians did, that being that if there is a supernatural realm, then fractal math says that no God could know how many more were above him, hence our God above God views.
Reject your fantasy supernatural world. It is garbage and not what one can build a decent ideology on.
http://youtu.be/WvBxFXQy7-M
Regards
DL
Like i said, everything is a thing of definition, if you call walking on
water as part of natural bc everyone could do it and it being a
possibility of human existance or you call god as supernatural bc it
being a part of another reality is up to you but to "normal" people and
their "normal" everyday world god IS smthg supernatural, is up to you
and your personal def of supernatural.
So what you wank on is a tiny bit of your philosophy, maybe bc your god
is not the most high and you being in a snit!
Post by Justafoolagain
Post by einsiedlerkrebs
Post by Justafoolagain
"How do you define your God?"
Somewhat like you do but I take it further and give the "all" a voice. Mine.
I name my God I am.
Yahweh, the "i am the i am" god is only a tiny little aspect of the
almighty (the all encompassing and fathomless all-and-all concept)
according to (Psalm 82)
"God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the
gods. How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the
wicked? Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and
needy. Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the
wicked. They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in
darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations."
and the gnostic scriptures (nag hamadi library) rerfering to jehova as
the jelous creator god (of this universe) conceived out of the light
goddess (sophia, also goddess of wisdom) and darkness!
Post by Justafoolagain
Here is a longer explanation and logic trail. It is designed for Christians but you will get it.
Modern Gnostic Christians name our god "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.
You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.
The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation.
In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that lazy Christians have forgotten that they are to do. That is, become brethren to Jesus.
That is why some say that the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.
Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.
Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.
http://youtu.be/alRNbesfXXw
Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.
http://youtu.be/aGx4IlppSgU
The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural and literal reading of myths.
Regards
DL
Post by David Dalton
Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we are the
same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
I don’t consider myself a gnostic or a Christian, but I define my
top deity or Deity ALL as the someone that is all/everything,
and I also call it God, but I usually use the name ALL to avoid
confusion with other definitions of God. Also my second
deity is LOVE2, defined as the someone that is highest in
goodness measure as defined by ALL. I believe that, based
on the way things are, that ALL is not LOVE2.
I sometimes post to this newsgroup to hopefully reach gnostics.
How do you define your God?
--
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“I'm sick of sitting 'round here trying to write this book
I need a love reaction/Come on now baby gimme just one look" (B.S.)
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
einsiedlerkrebs
2018-11-28 07:16:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Justafoolagain
Water, in the esoteric sense is people.
Keep your childish supernatural belief. Intelligent people will deal with facts and not fantasy.
Thanks for the chat.
Given that things are really quiet here, and now I see why, I will move along.
Yeah and don't let that door hit your ass while leaving, stupid bumfuck!

Reagrds,
Robert Smrdelj!
David Dalton
2018-11-30 06:46:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Justafoolagain
Water, in the esoteric sense is people.
Keep your childish supernatural belief. Intelligent people will deal with
facts and not fantasy.
Thanks for the chat.
Given that things are really quiet here, and now I see why, I will move along.
Regards
DL
You might have more luck starting a Gnostic Christianity
thread on the main Christian groups.
--
David Dalton ***@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“I'm sick of sitting 'round here trying to write this book
I need a love reaction/Come on now baby gimme just one look" (B.S.)
Justafoolagain
2018-11-30 13:48:18 UTC
Permalink
David

I already go to various Christian groups.
I mostly end in arguing and correcting Christians who do not know what Gnostic Christians are all about. Even some Gnostic Christians like our friend above has his own view that I find weird and not at all Gnostic Christian.

I wanted to chat more and argue less and that is why I looked for and found this place. Unfortunately, I did not find what I was looking for other than yourself so far.

Regards
DL
Post by David Dalton
Post by Justafoolagain
Water, in the esoteric sense is people.
Keep your childish supernatural belief. Intelligent people will deal with
facts and not fantasy.
Thanks for the chat.
Given that things are really quiet here, and now I see why, I will move along.
Regards
DL
You might have more luck starting a Gnostic Christianity
thread on the main Christian groups.
--
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“I'm sick of sitting 'round here trying to write this book
I need a love reaction/Come on now baby gimme just one look" (B.S.)
David Dalton
2018-12-01 05:48:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Justafoolagain
David
I already go to various Christian groups.
I mostly end in arguing and correcting Christians who do not know what
Gnostic Christians are all about. Even some Gnostic Christians like our
friend above has his own view that I find weird and not at all Gnostic
Christian.
I wanted to chat more and argue less and that is why I looked for and found
this place. Unfortunately, I did not find what I was looking for other than
yourself so far.
I think you would be welcome on alt.philosophy.taoism ,
where there are conversations on a wide array of subjects,
no just Taoism, and the most prolific poster, wudao, is
I think a Christian who follows Taoism as a philosophy.
--
David Dalton ***@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“I'm sick of sitting 'round here trying to write this book
I need a love reaction/Come on now baby gimme just one look" (B.S.)
Justafoolagain
2018-12-04 20:16:35 UTC
Permalink
D D

I will check it out. Thanks

Regards
DL
Post by David Dalton
Post by Justafoolagain
David
I already go to various Christian groups.
I mostly end in arguing and correcting Christians who do not know what
Gnostic Christians are all about. Even some Gnostic Christians like our
friend above has his own view that I find weird and not at all Gnostic
Christian.
I wanted to chat more and argue less and that is why I looked for and found
this place. Unfortunately, I did not find what I was looking for other than
yourself so far.
I think you would be welcome on alt.philosophy.taoism ,
where there are conversations on a wide array of subjects,
no just Taoism, and the most prolific poster, wudao, is
I think a Christian who follows Taoism as a philosophy.
--
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“I'm sick of sitting 'round here trying to write this book
I need a love reaction/Come on now baby gimme just one look" (B.S.)
David Dalton
2018-11-30 06:42:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Justafoolagain
"How do you define your God?"
Somewhat like you do but I take it further and give the "all" a voice. Mine.
I name my God I am.
I guess you are saying that someones that are subsets of ALL
can be considered aspects (or facets) of ALL. However I
don’t look at it that way; I know that I am a subset of ALL but
don’t believe that means that I am an aspect of ALL. Also
just because I am a subset of ALL, that doesn’t necessarily
mean that my consciousness is a subset of the
consciousness of ALL.
--
David Dalton ***@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“I'm sick of sitting 'round here trying to write this book
I need a love reaction/Come on now baby gimme just one look" (B.S.)
Justafoolagain
2018-11-30 13:37:20 UTC
Permalink
David

If you are in the all, a subset or whatever, and can think, then your consciousness is of course a subset or independent part of the all.

Think as if you were looking at you in a demographic pyramid as supplied below.

As you will visualize, we are all in that common together, yet alone.

Have a look at this graph made up of little squares.

See yourself as a vocal or independently thinking square.

https://www.upworthy.com/9-out-of-10-americans-are-completely-wrong-about-this-mind-blowing-fact-2

Regards
DL
Post by David Dalton
Post by Justafoolagain
"How do you define your God?"
Somewhat like you do but I take it further and give the "all" a voice. Mine.
I name my God I am.
I guess you are saying that someones that are subsets of ALL
can be considered aspects (or facets) of ALL. However I
don’t look at it that way; I know that I am a subset of ALL but
don’t believe that means that I am an aspect of ALL. Also
just because I am a subset of ALL, that doesn’t necessarily
mean that my consciousness is a subset of the
consciousness of ALL.
--
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“I'm sick of sitting 'round here trying to write this book
I need a love reaction/Come on now baby gimme just one look" (B.S.)
David Dalton
2018-12-01 05:45:41 UTC
Permalink
Of course my consciousness is a subset of ALL, but my
consciousness might not be a subset of the
consciousness of ALL, which itself is a subset of ALL.
Post by Justafoolagain
David
If you are in the all, a subset or whatever, and can think, then your
consciousness is of course a subset or independent part of the all.
Post by David Dalton
Post by Justafoolagain
"How do you define your God?"
Somewhat like you do but I take it further and give the "all" a voice. Mine.
I name my God I am.
I guess you are saying that someones that are subsets of ALL
can be considered aspects (or facets) of ALL. However I
don’t look at it that way; I know that I am a subset of ALL but
don’t believe that means that I am an aspect of ALL. Also
just because I am a subset of ALL, that doesn’t necessarily
mean that my consciousness is a subset of the
consciousness of ALL.
--
David Dalton ***@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“I'm sick of sitting 'round here trying to write this book
I need a love reaction/Come on now baby gimme just one look" (B.S.)
einsiedlerkrebs
2018-12-01 12:15:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by David Dalton
Of course my consciousness is a subset of ALL, but my
consciousness might not be a subset of the
consciousness of ALL, which itself is a subset of ALL.
Post by Justafoolagain
David
If you are in the all, a subset or whatever, and can think, then your
consciousness is of course a subset or independent part of the all.
Post by David Dalton
Post by Justafoolagain
"How do you define your God?"
Somewhat like you do but I take it further and give the "all" a voice. Mine.
I name my God I am.
I guess you are saying that someones that are subsets of ALL
can be considered aspects (or facets) of ALL. However I
don’t look at it that way; I know that I am a subset of ALL but
don’t believe that means that I am an aspect of ALL. Also
just because I am a subset of ALL, that doesn’t necessarily
mean that my consciousness is a subset of the
consciousness of ALL.
Don't talk to him/her, he or she wants to get enlightened for free and
then shits on the enlightner! I can feel his subconscious intent!
--
https://cosmicpurple.blog/
p***@gmail.com
2019-08-15 14:52:31 UTC
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Post by Justafoolagain
Are there any here who call themselves Gnostic Christians the way I do?
As proof, please tell me what you call your God, just to see if we are the same type of Gnostic Christian.
Regards
DL
see my blog

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https://gnosticdoctrine.blogspot.com/

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